MGH System (Martingale Grid and Hedging)
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  1. #1
    Hi.

    No big debut, no stories about my trading or personal life, no extended articles about subjective theories or techniques.

    I only want to show you a simple method in which I am working and I hope that with everyone's help, we could enhance it.

    We all recognize that grids and martingales are harmful, but abstain from making comments debating whether these techniques are good or bad and concentrate on the system.

    You're welcome and feel free to writing your ideas or critical.

    Fundamental example for entrance criteria.

    Just use a indior that draw a 10 pips grid.

    Buy: If price comes in above and touch a grid level (level 1)

    TP: second degree (10 pips)

    If the price drops 10 pips, put in a buy (level 2)... place all TPs at par 1

    If the price drops 10 pips longer, put in a buy (level 3)... place all TPs at par 1

    Sell: If price comes from below and touch a grid level (level 1)

    TP: second degree (10 pips).

    If the price climbs 10 pips, put in a buy (level 2)... place all TPs at par 1

    If the price climbs 10 pips longer, add a buy (level 3)... place all TPs at par 1



    That is just another example of Fundamental entries when our martingale and hedging aren't crucial to use however, just grids.

    I believe this time will be quite clear, I don't know how to simplify it even more



    That is the most easy situation.

    Let see another effortless situation, let's call it Hedge x2

    Today we've got our grid sells on Level 4 thus without closing the sells....

    1. We will open just buys doubling the last lote.

    2. If the price go contrary to, we put in up to two grid levels more with the exact same lote size.

    3. We will close all buys and sells when we reach 100 pips or more.



    Until today those are very easy scenarios.

    Later we well see some more complie.

    In advance I will say that this system have a percentage equity SL and a different equity TP target, depending on the hedge multiplier. The biggest the biggest that the profit, the hedge multipler.

    Let see today Hedge x4

    1. Price reach the level 4 so that we begin with x2 buys and find a little profit, but....

    2. The price has retraced to our x1 grid sells, or so the TP for x1 transactions is attained and today we've got 3 x two transactions in the air

    3. To avoid a possible range, we'll await the price moves an additional degree.

    4. Then we'll begin with x4 sells until reach our target. In the event of a Hedge x4 we want 250 pips or longer to close all the transactions.



    I will show you today as soon as the separation between opened grids is 30 pips or longer. We will call to this case Hedge x4 Interior Grid.

    1. We have two opposite grids opened (3 x1 buys and 3 x2 sells). At this stage some x2 sells have already been closed already ( 5 sells x 2 = 100 pips )

    2. The gap between the grid 3 of started buys and lgrid evel 3 of started sells is 30 pips.

    3. The price back up into the middle of the grids separation. In cases like this the centre would be 15 pips, thus we believe the amount closest to buys to begin with x4 trades.

    4. At some point the price reach or x1 buys TP and are shut. ( 3 buys x 1 = 30 pips )

    5. We still open x4 buys until get our 250 pips or longer target.



    Here is the Hedge x16 Interior Grid example. I believe that the picture speak by itself.

    1000 pips or more target for this example, incidentally.




    once we have an inside grid we will await the outside grid to close, in this instance the x8 buys, to open a new x32 grid.

    Here is actually the Hedge x32 inside grid... 5.000 pips DD.

    Maybe it would be a good idea to begin with another level 10 pips away fom inside grid get TP, and not await a negative level to get TP.



    That really is a modifiion of the machine by Paracelsus (FxMasterGuru)...

    https://www.forexsoutheast.asia/gene...g-happens.html

    Some brainstorming ideas for further experimentations:

    1. First batch entrance is in trend direction:

    Buy: When price comes in BELOW and touch a grid level (level 1)
    Sell: When price comes in ABOVE and touch a grid level (level 1)

    Reasoning: To maintain friendship with the tendency beginning from Level1 of Original Batch. (All further H Grade admissions are in trend direction, so why don't first one, also?)

    2. Not moving original TP levels when Level2 and Level3 transactions are triggered.

    TP: second amount (10 pips)
    If the price drops 10 pips, add a buy (level 2)... maintain TP
    If the price drops 10 pips longer, add a buy (level 3)... maintain TP

    Reasoning: Just by maintaining the original TP, we could DOUBLE the profit of each Original Batch (following Level3 entry).

    For example:
    Moving TP into Level1: Level1 Level2 Level3 PT = 0 10 20 = 30 pips
    Maintaining original TP: Level1 Level2 Level3 PT = 10 20 30= 60 pips

    https://www.forexsoutheast.asia/gene...thon-perl.html

    Additionally, an additional thought: Taking profits and reentering with exactly the exact same lot size at each grid-step burns up lots of commissions and spreads, that add up. To avoid feeding the beasts (i.e. the brokers) excessively repeated reentries, I propose NOT TO CLOSE that the very first transactions of each smaller batches, but allowing them ride and adding the 2nd and 3rd measures following a 10 pips (grid size) retracement as normal.

    It provides exactly the exact same precise equity gain/loss at each level as the original egy but without closing and opening transactions at each level. Contemplating that a 1.2 pips ECN expense at each grid step, it can mean 12 pips saving on a 100 pip move, which will be about 12% cost saving. Not insignificant. Additionally, as butterfly effect occurs also in trading, this small, but significant cost saving can mean the difference between being able close a basket prior to a major market turn and until a higher Hedge amount would kick .

    Attached the EA's by GoldenEA

    https://www.forexsoutheast.asia/fore...py-trades.html
    https://www.forexsoutheast.asia/fore...ng-trader.html
    https://www.forexsoutheast.asia/atta...8960771578.mq4

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    .. .That pic tells a lot. Logically it does not make sense to start a Buy as the 4th trade etc.. Still looking and thinking it over...
    If you have ideas, please post this. I'm developing now.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote Thanks SwingMan for Your EA!! Testing... here's your very first group of transactions that moves into close-all. image and it seems like like that: image This pic tells a lot. Logically it doesn't make sense to open a Buy as the 4th trade etc.. Looking and thinking over it. Thanks again, cheers vaper
    After Batch2/Trade1 (i.e. the 3rd commerce in a row) is opened the title of this match is: ESCAPE from the BASKET. So exactly the identical way runs as SwingMan's.

    Quite simply: if Batch2/Trade1 is opened the EA is already hedging Batch1 and anticipating a possible trend change. The 4th exchange (i.e. Batch2/Trade2) is a pullback entry, along with the purpose of this would be to facilitate the escape, even if and when the trend reverses.

    As found on todays's screenshot, the basket opened yesterday was shut with profit today, and a new BUY Batch was opened as the fad (according to 200EMA) is still up.


  4. #4
    MGH EA has managed the EURUSD price fall with flying colours (M5 chart for better screening ):

    (Profits are made wherever the price moves...)


  5. #5
    As the enclosed screenshot shows the 10 pips (and 1x) grid has been only perfect for the tiny pullbacks from the new trend:


  6. #6
    Hello all,

    first post here in FF. I would like to start giving thanks to each one of you for your great participation and aid given to new ones like me. I have been trading for two years now without a high success but there's something in trading which makes me to don't stop trying.

    Swingman, I have a suggestion for your fine EA. As stated several times before, the advantages of the system comes from the first batch and following batches would be to ease the escape. We can see that lot of times we need of those next batches, meaning that we were not succesfull in selection of direction of first batch.

    My idea is to have the option to do the first entrance batch against the tendency, with this we could add the EA to 2 distinct EURUSD charts, one to follow the trend and the second to enter from the trend.

    With this, we'll ensure that at least one of them will be into the choice of the first batch. I expect that this increases the overall profitability whilst not increasing the risk appreciably.

  7. #7
    I just discovered that after a restart the EA is not functioning properly... Please be cautious and do not trade reside.

    The reason has been an unexpected restart of the Metatrader server...

  8. #8
    risky test batches 0.01, 2.5 multiplier, MGH EA4.2, 100e account. . Have if she succeeds.

    I think that the entries follow different rules to EA parcelsus... I must look deeper. .

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    I just noticed that after a restart the EA isn't functioning properly... Please be careful and do not trade live. The cause was a sudden restart of this Metatrader server...
    I have run into a similar (or same?) Problem with my own EA. The programmer had to use Global Variables (whatever it means) to save the current condition of the entries and also to rebuild the situtation after a restart.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    risky test batches 0.01, 2.5 multiplier, MGH EA4.2, 100e account. . Have if she survives. I believe that the entries follow various principles to EA parcelsus... that I need to look deeper. . picture
    According to Kfx's backtests, this 100 Euros account will not survive... In Kfx's bactests even a 10k account with 0.1 starting lot had -50percent DD at least two times a year.

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