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    Okay I decided to write up this and share since it makes amazing amounts of sense.
    Have you ever wondered why Japanese candle sticks work really well if utilized correctly. Here's a few reasons for this.

    1. Trapped and exiting traders move markets.

    2. Market manufacturers, Banks, and Institutions use the very same tricks over and over again and they seem about the same each time. You cant teach a market new tricks.

    3. Patterns fail I know that seems dumb to get a reason that they actually work but youll understand later.


    1. Every activity is paired with the opposite action. A buyer has bought from a vendor and vice versa. The best chances to earn money in moves are if people change their thoughts impulsively. Actually that is the only time an trader should place an order.
    I understand most would like to believe the market is not manipulated but it is and its not a bad thing (such as the wise traders anyways). The only reason (lets use rallies for instance ) rallies occur is because the many heavily invested institutions need to unload or sell their stock in a great price for their customers. The institution and clever investors/traders follow the belief to make money its the only way the path of least resistance.
    Trapped and exiting traders are often used create reversals and continuations.


    Example one Is the
    USD/JPY pair that has been very orderly on the 1HR period frame.
    Alpha A notes that a classic reversal bar that many would have shorted in the break of its lover limit. So Here we have the majority of the investing public brief (they've sold something that they did not own that would need them to buy to depart ). The subsequent two hour more and more went brief dropping the price further and further. The majority of the traders who bought the service at 1 would have exited at the A change pub. So a big majority of interday traders could happen to be trading or covering long positions. B notes buyer or Covering Shorts which arguable can be brought about by one or another. Institutions would like to buy more for their customers they understand that if they begin buying they will get the Bears nervous and depart and they're able to scoop up a lot in a great price. Irrespective of the true reason we just trade the motion. So it does not really matter. Any who as price action begins moving higher and higher the shorts from A who haven't covered since they HOPE (Hope is an evil entity in trading) to get out in a better price lose all hope and depart in mass. The old shorts and new longs start a buying frenzy. Bear in mind the bears will need to buy to depart along with the buyers that want to enter will buy. There you go Trapped and exiting traders move markets.

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    2. The tips nevery change they are always the same. To establish that this I will deconstruct a change bar on a daily pub. I picked a daily pub because its the easiest to dive deeper into contrasted to a smaller time period the premise is exactly the same on all time frames but its harder to demonstarate and is much clearer for beginners.

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    Classic daily Reversal pub Little or no over lap with the last bar and a giant sign of strength with a large tail.


    Here in between the lines is the same pub but today each bar represents 4HRs
    There are a few key items to to note here this is not the best case but try to trace me. Support A has been disproved and is being shorted on pub B but something occurs deeper in pub B.



    RED - HIGH of this day
    TEAL - OPEN and Close are very Close
    Green - Low of the day

    Support A has neglected Shorts Galore following the collapse Bar B has been all shorts but pub C is enormous support forcing the less hopeful bears to depart early some held you can be sure and a few even if brief later also they the ugly fact rears is head the market has gone LONG!!!!



    Many Candle stick traders could have orders placed on the line and since the continuing bars deficiency highs which are lower compared to previous they will not exit quite yet. Hopefull Bears from all of the previous times will depart in mass coupled with new buyers as the USD/JPY proceeds up.

    Its the oldest trick in the Market publication.
    1. Belief I chose this bottom just like a professional look at it move
    2. Hope oh man I hope it finds support again
    3. Despair oh SHIT im never going to get out in a good price Abandon ship!
    4. Delusional is not marked on the chart but this point is 100 pips lower than dispair.





    3. So if everyone could only follow candle signal and make a lot of cash NO. Employing candle sticks takes expertise, patience and humility. Signals fail that is the very best thing about candle sticks. Belief is based on your understanding of reality. I believe that the euro will undo because of a candle rod pattern I enter the trade if my limit order is triggered. The euro climbs and fails need to know when to depart generally at a profit or break even. Its not educated enough taking reductions is GOOD! Everybody desires bullet proof systems which demand profit consistently. THIS IS A BUSINESS YOU RISK MONEY TO MAKE MONEY! Some business venture make cash and some dont but a wise company knows that you never bet the farm. KNOW and love your losses (Failed signals) its the price we pay. Plus you can always reverse your order when possible to take a failed signal and make money.

    The only way to earn money in almost any market is to search for collapse and be there to capitalize on scared money.


    1. Trapped, departing, new tendency (counter commerce ) traders move markets.
    2. Candle stick signals are reliable since they are the inescapable foot printing of price action that may signal a change or continuation on if dissected on smaller time frames.
    3. Candle sticks do neglect you need to know when to pull the plug on a trade or undo when necessary since you might be the person who will join the scared money.

    To Conclude this content Candle stick would be the bees knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    All three people share the exact same idea about markets that this is ridiculous that we are arguing about that.

    Markmm it states your a.. .
    Ok, great....if you know that you are better than majority here!
    However , I dont see how the candlestick kinds have anything to do with locating
    a stophunt targets!???
    I agree that highs and lows have any significance, however open and close?????
    Should you substract O and C from candlestick, it isn't a candlestick anymore....
    At least in a original form, so there goes your bar analisis!

    S, iB and OB....etc, doesnt have any significance in orderflow.
    All you need to look is that the H L of bars....it is your range cluster of orders at any specified time frame...I realy dont see a point of O C.....to me, It doesnt have any significance....it is only a location where employed time period has closed/opened....nothing more, nothing less!

    Fuzzyzc, I dont want to be rude, but ask yourself, is thare any border in candlestick analisis!??
    I for sure know that there's not anything in them, except price movement in utilized period of time.

    Regards, and sorry for hijacking your thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Ok, great....if you know that you're far better than majority here!
    However I dont see how the candlestick kinds have anything to do with locating
    a stophunt targets!???
    I concur that highs and lows have any significance, however open and shut?????
    Should you substract C and O from candlestick, it isn't a candlestick anymore....
    At least at a original type, so there goes your pub analisis!

    S, iB and OB....etc, doesnt have any significance in orderflow.
    All you need to look is that the H L of pubs....it is the range bunch of orders at specified time frame...I.. .
    I disagree that Candle sticks don't have any significance in order flow.
    They could give us Clues into what has occurred and how to profit.
    Highs and Lows I will concur weigh much more on importance specially on higher time frames.



    Shit I forgot to add Z segment is the one before B and A is following A. Each bar is labeled 1234 from the segments
    I really do believe candle sticks help us locate clues about opinion.

    I do agree 100% its not necessary to utilize candle sticks and have alot of good trades with just the high and the low but the close and open shows us the battle. Who is currently winning. If bulls were not present the close will not be over the open and if the close is below the open bears won. When close and the open would be near one another nobody won.

    We want every advantage we could get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Good luck trading the candlesticks....you will need it!
    More then an argument about candlesticks, it appears like one against charts.
    Are you really saying that charts are useless since they are a snapshot themselves?

    In case you are, and you only trade price, not using charts, it could be interesting to learn how you take action, at a dedied thread of course.

  5. #5
    Candlestick indicates the psycology in the market right such as fear and gread I have heard that it resembles fibb amounts and other thing an self fullfilling thing if many looks at it that the greater timeframe the better so it is with everything such as S and R also.


    Can candlestick really need to operate or is it okay to enter the market and we've got a 50 50 chanse and we make money if we've got a Fantastic MM


    best regards

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    candlestick shows the psycology on the market like panic and gread I have heard that it is like fibb numbers and other item itself fullfilling thing if many looks at it the higher timeframe the better so it's with everything such as S and R too.


    Can candlestick really must work or is it okay to join the market and we've got a 50 50 chanse and we earn money if we've got a fantastic MM

    finest regards
    In my estimation Candlesticks are among the best methods to quickly sum up what Greed, Panic, Profit taking, Entry and departure. Basically opinion.


    I dont even know about fibbs I sort of sense they're a self fulfilling indior. Great results have been heard of by me when price action reading and fibb amounts, but fibbs arent for me.

    It's been theorized that a 50 50 coin flip entry may work with the ideal exit and cash management. I wouldn't recommend it though if you want to imagine and have a crap ton of patience and balls I would say consider a daily if price is below a 30 day moving average move. The best option is with the trend. The swings in this system could be ridiculous though.

    IMO higher time frames are where its at not saying you cant earn money lower but it all depends on your own preference. I think its alot harder to fake out folks in higher timeframes but it does happen I got caught on the wrong side of a 100 pip move but shit happens. My MM saved my ass on this one however.

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    My mind is not large enough I suppose to understand some of what you guys are saying but when I understand fuzzy like I believe I do he is correct ( in my opinion only of course).

    Forecasting future price movement according to a current daily pub is exactly what I do and have done for years.

    I recently did a month of it on video with a success rate of around 90 percent. I didnt keep track but thats my guess. Maybe someone may post it and really counted the wins/losses.

    Its at the member area but maybe I will move the entire series into the guest side.

    why am I posting this ?

    Because fuzzy pm'ed me and asked me to review his thread.

    I use candles but there is no difference between candles and bars.

    They tell the same story.

    Good luck with your thread fuzz and contact me should you need anything,

    jim





    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    I am flabbergasted I need to clarify this but... trading has everything related to history of price if we traded each pub or price without reference to this last or a notion where it could. I would be pure gaming. Trading is not betting and if you believe it is you don't understand organized markets.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Candlesticks simply demonstrate the background of price, they are of no importance in forecasting the future direction of price. Much like me telling you the USD/JPY was at 92.34 on Tuesday in 3:34pm provides you no indiion of the future price.
    I expect you're allright if you'd said the preceding thing. One requires brain to decipher what day candlestick is indicating.

    Go and examine candlestick theory, practice it on charts and then you can do some justice to great art of candlestick.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    my mind is not big enough I suppose to know some of what you guys are saying but if I know fuzzy like I think I do he's correct ( in my opinion only of course).

    Forecasting future price movement according to a current daily pub is what I do and have done for ages.

    I recently did a month of this on video with a success rate of around 90 percent. I didnt stay track but thats my guess. Someone counted the wins/losses and can post it.

    Its at the member place but perhaps I will move the whole show into the guest aspect.

    So why...
    Great article from a Fantastic trader.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Good fortune trading the candlesticks....you will require it!

    Twoblink....hope you dont mind borowing this

    ....
    I have said time and time again, in case you don't know calculus, then you don't know...


    A snapshot is a quick function of several storage methods that introduces a copy of the filesystem as if it was suspended in a particular point in time, frequently by a copy-on-write mechanism. An efficient means to back up live data would be to temporarily quiesce it (e.g. close all documents ), have a snapshot, then resume live operations. At this stage...
    Neat thoughts you introduced. Several points to think about:


    In a sense, you're using oscillators (that I normally reject due to lag) over or with candles.

    Another ff mathematics aficionado's links googled http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...tility Trading into http://www.math.nyu.edu/research/car...f/twrdsfig.pdf, for this particular quote: payoffs related to realized volatility could be achieved which have no exposure to price, or that have an exposure contingent on certain price levels being achieved in specified time intervals.

    Your EKG chart, that can be similar to an oscillator, seems to measure volatility. When they reflect volatility candles try to measure tendency. An oscillator that is second would have to assess the device of time one has a stable direction within a tradeable volatility to isolate the impact of tendency on volatility.


    Additionally, you condemn candles as being a snapshot only if lots of candles are believed, or a lie if just a few candles are believed. Perhaps in the event that you think about charts in light of http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A1091350, it might make more sense to utilize candles.
    Statistics (as I see it relates to trading) anchors the probability of an event from random sources to acquire a pivot in peoples' opinion, that's the point where a decision on the topic being clubbed could turn -- how five to twenty-five candles will probably relate to a trendline, for instance, to ascertain where price changes its general tendency.

    Take a poll and you get all sorts of situations polltakers are in, where a choice will be made to define the given topic. Similarly, different broke rs' charts or'snapshots' in every chart provide all kinds of situations to define the way that price will relate to a trendline over time; specifically, it's the same, parallel time for different bankrupt rs' charts, and also quite close, series of occasions for your'snapshots'.
    For every individual that polls, their justification for the answer they give into the poll makes sense for their own life situation. Similarly, each parallel or serial processing of the same field on the chart generates the same pivot for the trend.
    Candles, taken as one or a pattern, manage to link to one another in precisely the same way each one of those peoples' lives associate for a single answer to where the pivot is.


    Ultimately, you noticed that high and low of a candle are all that need to be considered. Since candles work relative to one another, even when you search for a candle using a shape and study 1 candle, then the candle counts in scenarios or specialized procedures that use candles.
    Examples: The specific middle of a spinning top is useful when the spinning top reaches the final of a symmetric triangle; the high and low of a candle may be useless if the candle is in the center of a several-candle run; and, the bottom of a candle's body may be useful instead of this candle's shadow-included reduced if a different, prior candle considerably overlaps this candle because it creates a general pivot.


    Good trading to you.

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