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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    I attempting a different SWAP egy ant FXDD. And make this one at IBFX and FXDD. First of all, this SWAP It´s better at IBFX, don´t operate at FXDD.

    I truly think this idea can rocks!!! However, you need to open the transactions a litlle time prior to the Swap and close ASAP. The USD/CHF closes at 0x0 and EUR/USD closes at 2x0

    Currently. I have closed the EUR/USD, and awaiting close USD/CHF.

    The system can support 190 pips of drawdown.
    Hi Cesar, I believe the next thing is to find a broker who pays better swap instead Ibfx, however for now it sounds very good.

    Obs: Eu sou do Brasil tambem, vou adicionar voce no msn ok?

    Até mais

    See ya

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  3. #13
    It almost is freedom rocks, and most of us know theres a collapse. .

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    It virtually is liberty stones, and most of us know theres a collapse. .
    I didn't attempt the FreedomRocks but this hedge seems to work.

    Give it a shot and after that you can state whether its failure.

    Thanks for the article

    See ya

  5. #15
    Let's just do it for a year.
    5/06 E/U to yesterday cl = 956 pips
    5/06 U/C to yesterday cl = -196 pips
    net 760 pips x 33.65 = $25575.00

    WOW... GREAT!!!
    THIS YEAR...

    My purpose is, even if there can be this fantastic a difference for you, then there can be just as great a difference .
    System needs some work.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Let's just get it done for a year.
    5/06 E/U to cl = 956 pips
    5/06 U/C to cl = -196 pips
    net 760 pips x 33.65 = $25575.00

    WOW... GREAT!!!
    THIS YEAR...

    My purpose is, even if there may be this great a gap for you, then there may be just as good a difference .
    System needs some work.
    Yes, thats why I am saying you ought to close the position when you have profit in both sides. When it goes against you, you need to add more positions to avg price. This way you won't possess such drawdown in pips.

    Thanks
    Bruno

  7. #17
    You need to add places to avg price. This way you won't have such draw down in pips.

    Averaging only helps if the pair goes your way.
    When it continues to proceed against you the losses simply mount exponentially.

    I think a carry trade is most secure if you hedge it from the futures market on a straight one to one basis.
    You receive the complete swap points and it is cheaper to exchange futures.

    There are still risks and you have to finance two accounts in case your in the USA, but IMHO it is considerably safer.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    you ought to add more positions to avg price. This way you won't have such draw down in pips.

    Averaging only helps if the pair moves your way.
    If it continues to go against you the losses only mount exponentially.

    I think a carry trade is most secure if you hedge it at the futures market on a straight one to one basis.
    You get the full swap points and it is more affordable to exchange futures.

    There are still risks and you have to fund two accounts if your in the USA, but IMHO it is considerably safer.
    I hear people stating that hedge works much better on futures market, but don't understand that market. I never exchanged and don't understand the principles, but this could be is the way.

    Once I say to include more positions you ought to do when the market is moving against you, let us say that EUR/USD create a big range then you should open more positions so the retreacement will pay for the gap.

    I'm still concerned about margin call, and I am looking for a way to make the system simpler.

    However, I truly know that the system is profitable when you have a large free margin.

    If somebody could help with this I will be greatfull.

    Thanks

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    you should add more positions to avg price. This way you will not possess such draw down in pips.

    Averaging only helps if the pair moves your way.
    When it continues to go against you the losses simply mount exponentially.

    I feel a carry trade is most secure if you hedge it from the futures market on a straight one to one basis.
    You get the complete swap points and it's more affordable to trade futures.

    There are still risks and you have to fund two accounts if your in the USA, but IMHO it's considerably safer.
    Just curious, is there a thread going on about hedging using Currency Market and futures?

    Wondering what FOREX pair(s) and direction with which FUTURES market(s) and leadership.

    David

  10. #20
    HEDGE looks good
    Hello everyone.

    I'm kind a new in Hedge egies and create a system that seems nice.

    I truly apreciate if you guys give me any opinions and sugestions trigger the machine appears to good to be true (to me )

    So let's get it

    Broker: InterbankFX

    Initial account: $10,000

    Buy EUR/USD using 3.38 std lots

    Buy USD/CHF using 4.10 std lots

    Note: Try to Buy at precisely the exact same time, starting with U/C then E/U.

    This lots must give you $2,520 of free margin

    1 pip EUR/USD = $33.80
    1 pip USD/CHF = $33.50

    (I didn't found the right lot size to keep $/pip the exact same )

    Let's assume pip worth $33.65, this gives you 74 pips to lose.

    It is needed because it is not correlated all of the time, kind a 92% of time

    Swap rates IBFX:

    EUR/USD: -$20.45

    USD/CHF: $36.49

    TOTAL: $16.04 / evening

    It gives you $5854.60 annually!

    To me it seems really good, it is close to 5 percent a month w/out doing whatever

    I actually information close place at a fantastic profit and them you open again (To make margin)

    Regards,


    Dear Bruno,

    as you presumed in the intro, your machine is too good to be true. What a shame.

    Buy 1 EUR/USD: Long EUR 100K Brief USD 134.980
    Buy 1 USD/CHF: Long USD 100K Short CHF 122.750

    Net standing: Long EUR 100K Short USD 34.980 and Brief CHF 122.750

    nice attempt, but your only doing the like buying EUR/CHF. It's not a hedge. It functions as long as the Swissy devaluates against the EUR.

    Proof:

    Buy 1 EUR/CHF: Long EUR 100K Brief CHF165.620

    CHF 165.620 equals USD 34.980 and CHF 122.750 in the moment of commerce. Why? USD 34.980 was in the specified price (1.2275 USD/CHF) in the moment of trade representing CHF 42.870. These CHF 42.870 - oh wonder - additional to CHF 122.750 amount up to CHF 165.620.

    Regards
    t.

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