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    That is a egy. I'm rather interested in what you are saying here. I'm not a mod anymore, but let me see if I can get it moved back to the journal department. I will be delighted to delete this article when you have read it. Thanks for the glowing star on a recently dark night.

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Thanks to This indior. Can you perhaps cover a bit more on the topic of those 6 pressure points? Is your theory at all like J-charts?
    Looks like it's just you and my friend. OK now 12 hours each day (minimum) 360 days a year for 2 years stems to....errrr....8640 hours.

    Would you prefer a fast overview or would you prefer me to go into some specifics.



    What's a J-chart?

    Roy

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    What every trader wants to understand, why the markets do what they do.

    Trajectories

    Component 1

    I will split this section in 2, you need to know the fundamentals before moving to the more intriguing second part.

    What are trajectories and what's their objective.
    First the basics. Info points. Each candlestick ( or Bar ) has four data points know to all as OPEN,HIGH,LOW and CLOSE. Radiating out of every one of those data points are four invisible rays sent out to the future looking to pick up similar signals transmited backwards from candles which are going to be formed later on.
    If you're a visual person, think of it like this.You are holding in mind candle, and I am holding this weeks off,which just closed.

    From the High of your candle tie 4 pieces of string, and I will attach one to my Open, one to my High,one to my Low,and one to My close. The process is repeated until we have 16 pieces of chain. All these would be the trajectories. In fact they move through my candle and to the near future,they continue forever.
    They may get a sign again in two weeks or ten decades or never.
    It is significant to mention that the more times a trajectory touches a candle that the stronger it becomes and the longer it's respected by the markets.

    Every candle therefore has 32 trajectories, 16 entering the near future and 16 entering the past.

    The good news isin part 1 we're only interested in two of those trajectories. Those that go from HIGH to HIGH, and also those which go from LOW to LOW.

    Lets look at the Lows, the market moves down, hesitates, and then starts to climb again. From the low of the bottom candle a trajectory is beamed out to the future looking for another low. After the market moves up and reverses it starts its adequate until a candle is formed who is cheapest non, beaming out a signal to the past, locks to the signal sent out by the previous low. The market respects this (now considerably more powerful ) trajectory and stops and reverses, climbs drops, and matches with the tragectory again which it succeeds, making the trajectory even stronger.

    However, you already know all of this.

    You simply call it a Trendline.

    This obviously is support, high to high to high is resistance.

    Each candle tells a story. Every candle, on every timeframe, tags two trajectories. The highs and lows pass . If the trajectories are far apart, what you get is a big candle.
    What I hav'nt said is that the clock is ticking.The market must be in any price point at a particular time. If for some reason it gets held up and is running late, it makes up for it with the huge sudden motions that we have all seen.
    The market enjoys order.
    Now, remember, each of the time frames will need to work together to achieve the markets aims. All these movements will need to work in sync, and also be ontime.

    The next part is about looking for trajectories which go from swing low to swing large, back to swing low.

    Roy

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    Johan777, I don't have any idea about demand and supply cause, you would have to interview every trader in the world, and ask them. Sorry.

    Merlin, wink wink say no more.Thanks for dropping in.


    For all you indior individuals, I found one which I played with a very long time past, It's appropriate for this particular thread. A woodies/RSI/stoch combo called a 3D(imensional) oscilator. I'd'nt use it on less than 15m.

    Roy
    https://www.forexsoutheast.asia/atta...1083285973.mq4

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Is it almost the same with Bill Willi Alligator?
    Hello arcus, is that this question about the 3D osilator? If it's then I don't understand.

    I had never looked at Aligator before I read your Post. I took a glance at it and was very dissapointed. It's way too slow.
    The only way to test it out would be to conduct alligator and 3D Osilator on precisely the exact same chart and observe.

    Good Luck and Decent trading

    Roy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Looks like it is just you and my friend. OK now 12 hours a day (minimum) 360 days a year for 2 years stems to....errrr....8640 hours.

    Would you like a quick summary or do you like me to go into some details.



    What is a J-chart?

    Roy
    hehe I see you have worked a little at this...I would love as many details as you are willing to go into. I was reminded of j-charts because they're also a different way of charting afterward standard, they're based on ticks and loing an equilibrium, with no regard to time, if I understand them correctly(that I may not lol). However, I see that your method is quite different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    What each trader wants to know, why the markets do what they do.

    Trajectories

    Part 1

    that I am going to divide this section in 2, you want to be aware of the fundamentals before proceeding to the more intriguing second part.

    Which are trajectories and what is their purpose.
    First the Fundamentals. Info points. Each candlestick ( or Bar ) contains four data points know to all as OPEN,HIGH,LOW and CLOSE. Radiating out of every one of these data points are just four invisible rays sent out to the future looking to pick up similar signals transmited backwards from candles which are going to be shaped in the future.
    If you're a visual person, consider it like this.You are holding in mind candle, and I am holding this weeks candle,which just closed.

    In the High of your candle tie 4 pieces of string, and I'll attach one to my Open, you to my High,you to my Low,and you to My close. The process is repeated until we have 16 pieces of chain. These are the trajectories. In reality they pass through my candle and to the near future,they last forever.
    They may pick up a sign again in a couple of weeks or ten decades or not.
    It is significant to mention here that the more times a trajectory touches a candle the stronger it becomes and the longer it's respected by the markets.

    Every candle therefore has 32 trajectories, 16 going into the near future and 16 going into the past.

    The fantastic news isin part 1 we're only considering two of those trajectories. The ones that go from HIGH to HIGH, and also those which go from LOW to LOW.

    Lets consider the Lows, the market moves down, hesitates, then starts to climb back again. In the low of the bottom candle a trajectory is beamed out to the future searching for another low. Subsequent to the market moves upward and reverses it starts its adequate until a candle is shaped who is cheapest low, beaming out a signal to the past, locks on to the signal sent out by the last low. The market respects this (now much stronger) trajectory and finishes and stops, climbs drops, and meets with the tragectory again and it succeeds, making the trajectory even stronger.

    However, you already know all of this.

    You just call it a Trendline.

    This clearly is service, high to elevated to elevated is resistance.

    Each candle tells a story. Every candle, on each period, tags two trajectories. The highs and lows pass through them. If the trajectories are far aside, what you get is a big candle.
    That which I hav'nt mentioned is the clock is ticking.The market must be at a given price point at a certain moment. If for some reason it gets hauled up and is running late, it makes up for it using the huge sudden motions that we have all seen.
    The market enjoys order.
    Now, remember, all time frames need to function together to achieve the markets goals. All these movements need to work in sync, and also be ontime.

    The next part is about searching for trajectories that move from swing reduced to swing large, back to swing .

    Roy
    Very cool, thanks. I think I am with you so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Hello, is this question concerning the 3D osilator? If it is then I do not know.

    That I had never looked at Aligator before I read your Post. I took a quick look at it and was really dissapointed. It's way too slow.
    The only means to check it out would be to run alligator and 3D Osilator on precisely the same chart and observe.

    Good Luck and good trading

    Roy
    No, what I mean is the picture attached over, there's three lines which appears almost the same with Aligator. Just wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    No, what I mean is that the image attached over, there is three lines that looks almost the same with Aligator. Just wondering.
    Arcus, those 3 lines are my interpritation of where the measurements are.
    The original signals were generated from Excel spreadsheets.

    To all,

    I had 4 signals, Price,leadership and momentum, and one left over that I knew was significant but did'nt know what it was. I gave it the title Axis. I believe that is what Bill Willi called the great divide, a place where the market changes it has whole sentiment from one side to the other.

    In case you downloaded the 3D Osilator, overlay onto it a 28 interval Linear MA.
    I have put the Indior side by side with my machine for comparison.
    You may see why I played this indior. It has been about 12 months because I looked at it, and I am convinced I tweeked it to work (best) on the 4 HR.
    My machine has experienced lots of alterations since then as it got more sophisted.
    Should you change the colours to the exact same in my chart it will make it much easier to follow alongwith

    My Theory is that. Before price can alter direction it has to cross management.
    This is Pressure Point (PP) No 1. (yellowish x reddish ).
    PP2 is Direction crossing momentum (yellowish x blue).
    PP3 is the (usualy) continue to cross and the markets response can be seen. (Red x Blue).
    A change in leadership will now occur.
    WARNING. Price in your chart can and often does create a higher high/Lower low.
    The reason for this is that for Price to cross Momentum takes a great deal of leaves and energy price feeble. When PP3 occurs a decrease time frame will be exhasted. It is possible to observe that action play between a 9 and 18 LWMA (almost any MA I seem at will always be LW set to Typical).
    PP4 is when Direction crosses the Axis (yellowish x silver )
    PP5 is when price crosses Axis (red x Silver ) Strong Transfer ( Waterflames Elite).

    PP6 is the mom of these all.When Momentum crosses the Axis it's goodnight Irene. (blue x Silver) Strong move.Keep an eye on Momentum, it's the key.

    You need to spend some time watching how it works.Train your eyes.
    BE CAREFUL I have not used the 3D Osilator with actual money, It does not have anything to do with my current system,Stick it onto a demo first.

    I began this thread as a private Journal, to attempt to stimulate some new thoughts, if I can save one person from becomming road kill I'll be joyful,the Mods made the decision to place it , I don't want to end up in the trading egies or I shall Delete it.
    If you want to inform me WOW I made eight pips please utilize the PM system.Later if anybody finds it useful be MY Guest and then begin your own thread in Sytems.

    Roy

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