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    VSA/Wyckoff/Supply,Demand.

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    I've seen that lots of traders trying to apply VSA are having difficulty. Software and the books leave them confused, but knowing there is great worth in it.

    Here I'll be sharing my approaches, which take a more simple approach. Don't hesitate to post your questions, opinions and contributions.

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    Accumulation

    Accumulation starts with stopping (ultra high) volume onto a downward move, then into a range. Professional money is buying. They do not just enter the market and begin buying nevertheless. This is only going to set the price up so that they accumulate over a period of time, buying when spells of selling come to the market to acquire the best prices. Volume is observed in lower prices. After this phase has been established we refer to it as power in the backdrop.

    Distribution

    Distribution starts with stopping/climactic (ultra high) volume on an up move, then into a range. Professional currency is selling (the opposite of buildup ). As the market fades, a degree was reached where traders who have missed out on the move or have sold are accountable to buy late in the move. This provides professionals the chance to sell unnoticed concerning price, but the volume will be very high at the higher prices. This stage is also known as weakness in the backdrop.

    Test (low Volume)

    Testing is a very common signal. Look to buy if you currently have signs of power in the backdrop (stopping volume/accumulation), pushed by a little area of distribution, and came back to test which provide on reduced volume. It should be followed by an move. This is my trade entry that is most common.

    Test (high Volume)

    Demand remains current on a high volume evaluation of service (low prices). This is comparable to stopping volume showing the action of professional traders taking long positions for an expected up move, at lower prices. If this evaluation is at a supply level, supply would be shown.

    Effort to Rise/Push Thru

    Price pushes through a Place of resistance (distribution ) with no significant volume growth. This shows that sellers are interested in that amount, and price will continue up until provide is found.

    Effort to Rise (Failed)

    there's a broader spread up bar on top volume while the following bar melts. It's a serious indication of weakness.
    If the following bar(s) are down, then this can only show that, inside the high volume seen bar before, selling surpassed the requirement.

    Upthrust

    Upthrusts are rewarding traps to ch stops and are usually signs of weakness. It becomes a strong indiion of weakness In case you have a distribution area right behind you. And, if the volume is high, it provides more weight. The weakness will be confirmed by A move.
    Why have upthrusts? In any market, you will have stop orders over the market. Because traders think the same things collectively, these stops are going to be in a price group. Afterward, the market makers, understanding where these stops arehit them with little cost.
    The exact same is true in reverse in down markets and people call it a spring.

    Buying/Selling Climax

    On a buying orgasm there is a rapid price rise on high volume followed by pub (s) which do not make a greater close. Uniformed traders will continue to buy the fad, unknowingly. This offers the professional trader the opportunity to market into the buying at prices without bringing the market down nonetheless. This stops the bull market.

    Shake Outside

    (Ahead of an expected up movement ) This is a widespread down bar that then reverses to close near the open or highs on high volume. This is a rewarding move to strike stops. Traders who thought bullish are now fearful to enter the market. This shows that professional cash is coming in and buying, absorbing the weak vendors.

    Each of them apply in reverse as well.

    This initial article is a work in progress, stay tuned. Here's a chart showing a few of those conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote What's ibfx not dependable? Can you understand and exchange vsa?
    I think he's referring to Pete's youtube movie where he's mentioning that IBFX was reliable up to the stage that it had been bought up by FXCM. The quantity was exegurated. Since the upward volumes were too much up and the downward volumes were exceptionally low, revealed in the quantity histogram (from the quantity indior). Pete analyzed 4 or out 3 quantity data states that FXDD has the volume data feed, like what was IBFX and feeds. As IBFX from FXCM is unreliable, based on Pete pete needed to alter.

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    For the newsbies I'd like to encourage them and clarify what VSA procedure is. Here information Isn't from 1 teacher, I did complete trainings of numerous VSA and Wyckoff teachers:

    Indiors
    - Clock
    - 50ema
    - 14ema
    - Volume indior (use FXDD volume data feed)
    - Fibo
    - Daily/weekly/monthly pivot on chart
    - PA
    - S/R
    - RSI
    - Cluster indior (works best at h1/H4 chart)
    - Channel trendline



    VSA terms
    - Buying climax: the ending at a buying tendency
    - Spring: evaluation where price reaches back to SV level
    - AR automatic rally (= no distribution ): first Field of resistance after SV. AR is obviously bullish
    - AS: automatic support: first subject of support after SV. AS is bearish.
    - SV: stopping volume: first candle with maximum volume
    - NS: no supply
    o Pub is lower than previous 2 quantity bars
    o Candle is bearish
    o Candle includes shadow down?
    - ND: no demand


    Trading
    - Entrance 1
    § Next bullish candle
    § Don't enter on a fibo level
    - Entrance Two
    o The other way to put in is: if in a large downtrend with a lot of buy volumes and still continues downwards. Then whenever there is a huge SV you'll be able to go back before without AR-confirmation

    - TP
    o Look for previous high volume pubs (before SV) and use those candelesticks with higher quantity as TP
    o Whenever I see reverse candles with higher volume
    o Symmetry (aka draw previous uptrend and replicate as projection)
    - SL
    § Pete: 10-15 pips over first candle which has maximum volume
    § Tom states 30 pips SL
    § If SV already has a shadow below (like in fakeout) then SL can be closeby about 5-10 pips
    § Transfer SL below 50 fibo

    - Partially take in my profits when: (or add to your position when the direct reverse occurs)
    o AR/upthrust has large quantity (the specific candle which bounces off the S/R, the volume of the mid-candles are not so important) [IMG]file:///C:\Users\zonne\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\ clip_image010. Jpg[/IMG]
    o NS has low volume
    o a bearish SV is set higher than the next candle
    o previous lows that are BEFORE the bearish SV, has low volume.
    O SV has low spread
    o SV does not have a pin/shadow/wick
    o near SR amounts, daily/weekly/monthly pivots, fibo degree 50, 50ema (as well as 40ema in one of Pete's movies ).
    O Or looking in the smaller M5 timeframe, a sudden major volume bar on a bearish candle usually means price gradually falls
    o after 16gmt Pete seems to make more collapse transactions, Pete said. Therefore it only makes sense that someone would partially take profit before following 16gmt
    o tendency is your friend. It makes sense to take profit when buying in a bearish main trend, incasu EUR/USD where you can plainly see that main trend is bearish in the timeframe.
    O if the 5 waves (from Elliot wave) hasn't finished yet, then there is a smaller probability that price will probably reverse (and instead you might rather suspect a small retracement). Therefore it makes sense to take profit sooner rather than later.
    O Close to the End of a symmatry trendline projection

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    Subscribe to the Fantastic threat about VSA!
    Thanks Clifton

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